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rnelson
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posted 03-08-2006 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rnelson   Click Here to Email rnelson     Edit/Delete Message
Here is another interesting test.

This subject will appear in court in the near future, though the polygraph may play a role in mitigating the case before the hearing.

here is a link
http://www.raymondnelson.us/qc/060307.html

I haven't scanned the hand score yet.

and for fun, here is another (laughable) countermeasure attempt
http://www.raymondnelson.us/qc/060306.html

and (if you call before midnight), we'll throw in a complicated test on a handicapped subject
http://www.raymondnelson.us/qc/060302.html

Now, I'm off to baby-sit the deviant.

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Taylor
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posted 03-09-2006 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taylor   Click Here to Email Taylor     Edit/Delete Message
Ray, you were right, that countermeasure case would have been fun to administer and confront.

So give us a bit of info on the other two charts. What was your call? Did you agree with Identifi? Also, what was C8 on the handicapped case (no real big reaction on the first chart but the other two was great cardio)

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Barry C
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posted 03-09-2006 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
I've only looked at "laughable." I don't see what you find suspicios. They look good to me.

I didn't score them, but after I did laugh at the dummy, I suspect he'd still score in the DI zone if I were to pretend all was legit.

[This message has been edited by Barry C (edited 03-09-2006).]

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rnelson
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posted 03-09-2006 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rnelson   Click Here to Email rnelson     Edit/Delete Message
The laughable case I did not score, but it was somewhat interesting to see how much data developed when I didn't coach him about what was or was not apparent to me. The subject would not admit to using CM's and I suspect the exam will be buried in some priviledged attorney's file.

The handicapped case is a subject diagnosed since birth with Spina Bifida. (So lets here it for equal opportunity deviancy.) The subject cannot currently walk due to hip, knee, and other problems - that does not stop his offending or deviancy behaviors. You can see from the lower pneumo that his abdominal musclulature is largely inactive (underdeveloped - it plays a role in his immobility). I discussed with the supervising officer that he may not be completely suitable for the polygraph (we will continued to test him for disclosure and deterent value), and the PO was surprised and stated that none of the previous examiners had ever advised her of this limitation (which was weird because he was at one time excused from polygraph monitoring, and began acting out). We've seen the report a thousand times "determined that so-and-so was a fit subject for the polygraph technique" - whatever "fit" means. I indicated in the report I consider him a marginal subject at best, and the data quality is of marginal interpretability. I'll find the score and post them.

In the past he has failed polygraphs, and passed a polygraph with another examiner, a few months ago, after admitting that he acted out sexually on numerous occassions. (I have serious empirical reservations about testing the limits of behavior when a subject admits to some/extensive involvement.)

I'll find and scan the hand scores on the non-handicapped case. I recall I may have got stronger scores on R5 than Identifi. He is convicted of and admits fondling two biological daughters. This test was concerning his son, in the absence of any allegation.


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